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In reading these dialogical interactions between our better selves, I am reminded of Krishnamurti's observation that for 40,000 years we've been destroying ourselves, and for what? Here, Zizek muses ideology. I don't see how we can ever get to the human through mutilation; what are we looking for anyway? Is it about the missing link that ties us to some other nature than that same genetic structure which allows for organismic life to occur to begin with? Carl Rogers elucidated this point well with not being able to hate oneself into becoming someone worth loving; he was also criticized by May for under or un-acknowledgment of the fact of daemon. Lucifer went to hell and stays there for love and wishes of Christ, according to an adoring Joseph Campbell retelling this point of view to Bill Moyers. Lucifer, interestingly, is the son of Sophia, the goddess of wisdom. We would do well to invoke her.

Creativity involves destruction, hence May's meeting Tillich due to Nazi destruction of Europeans, and May's kindness in meeting his eventual spiritual father. They both understood the nature of art as to give form to reality (what we in E-H refer to as primary experience) which later is measured and replicated (in E-H secondary experience). But copies of copies seem ever the more these days, maybe so forever, perhaps tragically, and yet such artists re-presentation is at least a Nietzchean metaphysical constellation. Art may also be like Plato's concern of idolatry clouding the light of truth, that he seemed to believe mere human animals, unlike philosopher kings, are unable to discern the difference between representation and reality; that is until he had what he forbade, the lute, performed during his dying moments.

I am not so sure though, there then would be no way out of the replication of progress in the name of conquest for power over those brave ones in earlier ages who paved the way for the long process of seeing through the human project, that glorious and genius of our mythological past in the present is now rendered as untruth, what May referred to that which cannot be proven untrue. The latter is probably a retort to scientism. Campbell, his friend, showed that "Mythology is the song. It's the flight of the imagination inspired by the energy of the body."

Whatever the case may be since the truth is always opening, May's poignant statement resounds thanks to this consortium: "Does not the uncertainty of our time teach us the most important lesson of all—that the ultimate criteria are the honesty, integrity, courage and love of a given moment of relatedness? If we do not have that, we are not building for the future anyway; if we do have it, we can trust the future to itself." -Man's Search for Himself, Rollo May

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